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		<title>By: eoinpurcell</title>
		<link>http://jwadeg.wordpress.com/2006/09/12/a-couple-things-im-puzzling-over/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>eoinpurcell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and it has just occurred to me that you might find said books in Google Book Search and they may even offer a free download, though they do carry that scanned by google watermark!
Eoin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and it has just occurred to me that you might find said books in Google Book Search and they may even offer a free download, though they do carry that scanned by google watermark!<br />
Eoin</p>
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		<title>By: eoinpurcell</title>
		<link>http://jwadeg.wordpress.com/2006/09/12/a-couple-things-im-puzzling-over/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>eoinpurcell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sure is!
Of course it requires some work on your part and perhaps a little cost!

Gutenberg has very flexible usage terms so if they already have the works in question you can download the text, strip out the Gutenberg references and do with it what you will. Even page is nicely and make a PDF with it if you like. This will (if correctly paged [But you can get away with a nicely designed word version]) act as a rather nice ebook. 

I am fairly sure that aside from the editing issue of scanning/ocr work you could do that for a few books if you wanted! We publish some public domain works and find the toughest part to be editing OCR scans, but such is life!
Eoin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sure is!<br />
Of course it requires some work on your part and perhaps a little cost!</p>
<p>Gutenberg has very flexible usage terms so if they already have the works in question you can download the text, strip out the Gutenberg references and do with it what you will. Even page is nicely and make a PDF with it if you like. This will (if correctly paged [But you can get away with a nicely designed word version]) act as a rather nice ebook. </p>
<p>I am fairly sure that aside from the editing issue of scanning/ocr work you could do that for a few books if you wanted! We publish some public domain works and find the toughest part to be editing OCR scans, but such is life!<br />
Eoin</p>
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		<title>By: jwadeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwadeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An addendum of sorts.

Google Book Search does have the Harvard Library copy of the 1888 printing of &quot;Lessons in the Mechanics of Personal Magnetism&quot; up for free download.

Strangely enough, it is actually published under the name Webster Edgerly. In later years all his books would use the pseudonym Edmund Shaftesbury. That&#039;s a pretty interesting historical footnote all its own.

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Addendum to the addendum.

Via Google Book Search, I have also found early editions of &quot;The Cultivation of the Chest&quot; (under the name Edmund Shaftesbury) and &quot;The Ralston Brain Regime&quot; (under the name Everett Ralston).

Additionally, I&#039;ve found a block of 20 or so issues of the &quot;The Metaphysical Magazine,&quot; which may have some value to research.

All hail Google Book Search.

It&#039;s only a pity they aren&#039;t all up there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An addendum of sorts.</p>
<p>Google Book Search does have the Harvard Library copy of the 1888 printing of &#8220;Lessons in the Mechanics of Personal Magnetism&#8221; up for free download.</p>
<p>Strangely enough, it is actually published under the name Webster Edgerly. In later years all his books would use the pseudonym Edmund Shaftesbury. That&#8217;s a pretty interesting historical footnote all its own.</p>
<p> &#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Addendum to the addendum.</p>
<p>Via Google Book Search, I have also found early editions of &#8220;The Cultivation of the Chest&#8221; (under the name Edmund Shaftesbury) and &#8220;The Ralston Brain Regime&#8221; (under the name Everett Ralston).</p>
<p>Additionally, I&#8217;ve found a block of 20 or so issues of the &#8220;The Metaphysical Magazine,&#8221; which may have some value to research.</p>
<p>All hail Google Book Search.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only a pity they aren&#8217;t all up there.</p>
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		<title>By: jwadeg</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Chris.  I wasn&#039;t even aware you had posted a response when I made my response.  I had to check my email to see the &#039;please moderate comment&#039; thingy.

Yes, it is probably best to just work through Gutenberg or Sacred Texts.  I had hoped to &#039;go it alone&#039; so as to have a particular face on the issue.  After all, it&#039;s tough to influence people to scan and include their own copies in the database if the database involved is something as large and impersonal as Gutenberg.

I was hoping to provoke a private collection of files all based around my specific research, then provide copies of them to one of the bigger sites as an extension.

But that may not be feasible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Chris.  I wasn&#8217;t even aware you had posted a response when I made my response.  I had to check my email to see the &#8216;please moderate comment&#8217; thingy.</p>
<p>Yes, it is probably best to just work through Gutenberg or Sacred Texts.  I had hoped to &#8216;go it alone&#8217; so as to have a particular face on the issue.  After all, it&#8217;s tough to influence people to scan and include their own copies in the database if the database involved is something as large and impersonal as Gutenberg.</p>
<p>I was hoping to provoke a private collection of files all based around my specific research, then provide copies of them to one of the bigger sites as an extension.</p>
<p>But that may not be feasible.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the help.

I have thought of the OCR / Gutenberg method as an alternative, but with the word &quot;revised&quot; included, I&#039;m simply not sure if I&#039;m in the clear in either case.

I suppose just about all that I can logically do is compare the text to the older versions and see if it&#039;s actually any different.  In that case, however, I may as well simply scan the clearly public domain editions.

Oh well.  Perhaps I can still do under-the-table file swapping with other owners...  Too bad said owners are so difficult to find.

Damn Mickey Mouse extensions...ruining the great and good plans of mice and men.  (Well, not mice, apparently...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the help.</p>
<p>I have thought of the OCR / Gutenberg method as an alternative, but with the word &#8220;revised&#8221; included, I&#8217;m simply not sure if I&#8217;m in the clear in either case.</p>
<p>I suppose just about all that I can logically do is compare the text to the older versions and see if it&#8217;s actually any different.  In that case, however, I may as well simply scan the clearly public domain editions.</p>
<p>Oh well.  Perhaps I can still do under-the-table file swapping with other owners&#8230;  Too bad said owners are so difficult to find.</p>
<p>Damn Mickey Mouse extensions&#8230;ruining the great and good plans of mice and men.  (Well, not mice, apparently&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: bouvard</title>
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		<dc:creator>bouvard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think eoinpurcell is on the track here.  If you really want to do this I would say your best bet would be to contact the folks at either &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gutenberg.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Project Gutenburg&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sacred-texts.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Internet Sacred Texts Archive&lt;/a&gt;.  I&#039;m sure either one would be glad to have the books if you wanted to scan them and they would probably be able to help you sort out the copyright issue as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think eoinpurcell is on the track here.  If you really want to do this I would say your best bet would be to contact the folks at either <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/" rel="nofollow">Project Gutenburg</a> or <a href="http://www.sacred-texts.com/" rel="nofollow">The Internet Sacred Texts Archive</a>.  I&#8217;m sure either one would be glad to have the books if you wanted to scan them and they would probably be able to help you sort out the copyright issue as well.</p>
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		<title>By: eoinpurcell</title>
		<link>http://jwadeg.wordpress.com/2006/09/12/a-couple-things-im-puzzling-over/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>eoinpurcell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that the main issue is with the typesetting and design of these books. The protection would be for the work/property of the publishing firm rather than the work fo the author. A such Scanning PDFs and putting them online run he risk that Google Book Search currently run and so are forced to use the snippet view.

The workaround if the text itself is in the clear is to scan the text using OCR technology, edit it for accuracy etc. and publish a version of the text much like Project Gutenberg!

But yes sometimes the system is exceptionally confusing!
Eoin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that the main issue is with the typesetting and design of these books. The protection would be for the work/property of the publishing firm rather than the work fo the author. A such Scanning PDFs and putting them online run he risk that Google Book Search currently run and so are forced to use the snippet view.</p>
<p>The workaround if the text itself is in the clear is to scan the text using OCR technology, edit it for accuracy etc. and publish a version of the text much like Project Gutenberg!</p>
<p>But yes sometimes the system is exceptionally confusing!<br />
Eoin</p>
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